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		<title>Rays Notes: Anticlimactic Finish to Vogt, Chirinos Trades, Price Not Worried, Luke Scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robbie Knopf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The only things worse than trading a player for a player to be named later: trading one for cash considerations. When the Rays designated Stephen Vogt and Robinson Chirinos for assignment and subsequently traded them to the Oakland Athletics and Texas Rangers respectively, Rays fans had to hope they would at least get a lottery [...]</p><p><a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com/2013/04/23/rays-notes-anticlimactic-finish-to-vogt-chirinos-trades-price-not-worried-luke-scott/">Rays Notes: Anticlimactic Finish to Vogt, Chirinos Trades, Price Not Worried, Luke Scott</a> - <a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com">Rays Colored Glasses</a> - <a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com">Rays Colored Glasses - A Tampa Bay Rays Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only things worse than trading a player for a player to be named later: trading one for cash considerations. When the Rays designated <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vogtst01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Stephen Vogt</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/chiriro01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Robinson Chirinos</a></strong> for assignment and subsequently traded them to the Oakland Athletics and Texas Rangers respectively, Rays fans had to hope they would at least get a lottery ticket prospect at rookie ball or something out of the whole ordeal. Instead, they <a href="https://twitter.com/TBTimes_Rays/status/326446430829031424" target="_blank">settled</a> for an undisclosed amount of cash from both teams and their only real return for Vogt and Chirinos was adding <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/wrighja01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Jamey Wright</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/duncash01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Shelley Duncan</a></strong> onto their 40-man and 25-man rosters. It&#8217;s unsatisfying, but it&#8217;s just a reality of baseball that letting players with the ability to be productive leave for basically nothing is some times the right move.</p>
<p>In the case of Chirinos, the Rangers acquisition of him spurred them to trade two different players to the Rays in separate deals, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=apodac001jua&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Juan Apodaca</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/belivje01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Jeff Beliveau</a></strong>, and Apodaca <a title="Rays Replenish Catcher Depth, Acquire Catcher Juan  Apodaca From Rangers" href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com/2013/04/11/rays-replenish-catcher-depth-acquire-catcher-juan-apodaca-from-rangers/" target="_blank">has some backup catcher potential</a> while Beliveau <a title="Rays Add Another Arm to Bullpen Mix, Acquire LHP Jeff  Beliveau from Rangers" href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com/2013/04/16/rays-add-another-arm-to-bullpen-mix-acquire-lhp-jeff-beliveau-from-rangers/" target="_blank">could be interesting as a lefty bullpen arm</a>. Sometimes that actual trade itself is only the start of a chain reaction, and that could pay off for the Rays in the long-term.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/priceda01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">David Price</a></strong> takes the ball for the Rays tonight with numbers worse than anyone could have expected as this point in the year: an 0-1 record, a 6.26 ERA, 5 home runs allowed, and under 6 innings per start in his first four outings. Price looks to turn himself around, and both <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/maddojo99.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Joe Maddon</a></strong> and Price are <a href="http://tbo.com/sports/rays/rays-notes-price-insists-hes-fine-b82482108z1" target="_blank">confident</a> that he will be just fine.</p>
<blockquote><p>Price&#8217;s velocity is down, but both he and manager Joe Maddon said that&#8217;s common for Price at this time of the season.</p>
<p>“I have no concerns about David whatsoever,” Maddon said. “He&#8217;s going to get extremely hot and just role with it. That&#8217;s just the way it&#8217;s going to be. He has not pitched at the top of his game yet. The velocity has been down just a click, but there&#8217;s been other good things.”</p>
<p>“It is, absolutely, because this is something I don&#8217;t want to just be good at. I play this game to be great. That&#8217;s the way I&#8217;ve always been,” he said. “But I&#8217;ve struggled before. I&#8217;ve struggled at every level I&#8217;ve ever been in in baseball. It&#8217;s part of it. The ones that can get through those struggles and not let it linger on for months at a time are the ones who can get through these struggles and still have extremely good years.”</p></blockquote>
<p>That claim about Price&#8217;s velocity is something worth investigating (which we&#8217;ll hopefully do later today here at RCG), but the bottom line is that Price continues to show the overbearing arsenal that has made him one of the best pitchers in baseball and he will be just fine. His strikeout to walk ratio has actually been great at 21-7 and before we know it, Price will hit a groove and his results will get in line with what we&#8217;re used to. And when Price gets back on track, pairing him with yesterday&#8217;s starter, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/moorema02.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Matt Moore</a></strong>, will be opposing teams&#8217; worst nightmare.</p>
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		<title>Rays Notes: Stephen Vogt Traded to the Oakland A&#8217;s</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 13:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Hill</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>When Stephen Vogt was designated for assignment on March 31st, it felt as though his time with the Rays had come to an end. As he had gone 0-25 in his time in Tampa last year, it seemed as though his quest for his first major league hit would have to continue elsewhere. Friday, the [...]</p><p><a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com/2013/04/06/rays-notes-stephen-vogt-traded-to-the-oakland-as/">Rays Notes: Stephen Vogt Traded to the Oakland A&#8217;s</a> - <a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com">Rays Colored Glasses</a> - <a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com">Rays Colored Glasses - A Tampa Bay Rays Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vogtst01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Stephen Vogt</a></strong> was <a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com/2013/03/31/rays-add-jamey-wright-shelley-duncan-juan-carlos-oviedo-to-roster-stephen-vogt-robinson-chirinos-dfad/">designated for assignment</a> on March 31st, it felt as though his time with the Rays had come to an end. As he had gone 0-25 in his time in Tampa last year, it seemed as though his quest for his first major league hit would have to continue elsewhere. Friday, the other shoe finally dropped for Vogt, as he was <a href="http://tampabay.rays.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130405&amp;content_id=43981956&amp;notebook_id=43989142&amp;vkey=notebook_tb&amp;c_id=tb">traded to the Oakland A&#8217;s</a> for a player to be named later or cash considerations. Vogt was added to the A&#8217;s 40 man roster, as they designated <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/oteroda01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Dan Otero</a></strong> for assignment.</p>
<p>With <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/n/niemaje01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Jeff Niemann</a></strong> hitting the disabled list, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gomesbr01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Brandon Gomes</a></strong> <a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com/2013/04/05/rays-jeff-niemann-hits-dl-with-shoulder-soreness-brandon-gomes-called-up/">was called up</a> to take his spot in the bullpen. Gomes had an excellent spring, putting together a 2-0 record with a 1.74 ERA and 11 strikeouts, but was sent to Durham as the Rays just did not have enough room in the bullpen. However, he was immediately inserted into the action last night and picked up where he left off, firing a perfect eighth inning and recording a strikeout. His breaking pitches looked sharp with excellent movement, and he was around the plate even when his pitches were not called strikes. If he can continue to pitch the same way going forward, it may be difficult for the Rays to send him back down.</p>
<p>Finally, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/maddojo99.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Joe Maddon</a></strong> had the following Tweet about last night&#8217;s performance from <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/moorema02.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Matt Moore</a></strong>:</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>When Matt&#8217;s fastball is a strike, all of his other pitches come alive. That was the case tonight.</p>
<p>— Joe Maddon (@RaysJoeMaddon) <a href="https://twitter.com/RaysJoeMaddon/status/320360433695465472">April 6, 2013</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Moore had an <a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com/2013/04/05/matt-moore-bullpen-shut-down-indians-4-0/">excellent start last night</a>, putting together what may have been his best outing since a seven inning, one hit with eight strikeouts performance against the Miami Marlins on June 15th last year. He is definitely one of the pitchers that the Rays are counting on to take a step forward this year, and this first start is an encouraging sign. If he is able to continue to pitch the way he did from June on last season (10-6, 3.36 ERA, 117 strikeouts in 120.2 innings) then the Rays may answer the questions about their rotation a lot sooner than expected.</p>
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		<title>Rays Add Jamey Wright, Shelley Duncan, Juan Carlos Oviedo to Roster, Stephen Vogt, Robinson Chirinos DFA&#8217;d</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robbie Knopf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Sunday at 3 PM was the deadline for MLB teams to finalize their 25-man roster in advance of the season and the Rays had some last-second decisions to make. Jamey Wright had made their team out of spring training, but they had to decide who to designate for assignment in order to add him to [...]</p><p><a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com/2013/03/31/rays-add-jamey-wright-shelley-duncan-juan-carlos-oviedo-to-roster-stephen-vogt-robinson-chirinos-dfad/">Rays Add Jamey Wright, Shelley Duncan, Juan Carlos Oviedo to Roster, Stephen Vogt, Robinson Chirinos DFA&#8217;d</a> - <a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com">Rays Colored Glasses</a> - <a href="http://rayscoloredglasses.com">Rays Colored Glasses - A Tampa Bay Rays Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunday at 3 PM was the deadline for MLB teams to finalize their 25-man roster in advance of the season and the Rays had some last-second decisions to make. <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/wrighja01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Jamey Wright</a></strong> had made their team out of spring training, but they had to decide who to designate for assignment in order to add him to their 40-man roster. The more sudden question that arose was that they had to assess the severity of <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/scottlu01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Luke Scott</a></strong>&#8216;s calf injury to determine whether his replacement should be a player already on the 40-man roster or someone else in camp. The Rays made their choices, adding Wright, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/duncash01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Shelley Duncan</a></strong>, and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/n/nunezle01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Juan Carlos Oviedo</a></strong> to their 40-man roster while designating <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vogtst01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Stephen Vogt</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/chiriro01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Robinson Chirinos</a></strong> for assignment.</p>
<p>Things cannot be looking great for Luke Scott right now. With Scott&#8217;s current calf injury deemed that could sideline him for as many as five weeks, the Rays had to make a move to get a real hitter to replace- the 40-man roster options of <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gimench01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Chris Gimenez</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/guyerbr01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Brandon Guyer</a></strong>, and Vogt were not impressive and they had to make another move. The player they decided on was Duncan, who came to camp on a minor league contract and proceeded to lead the team with 5 home runs, although he did hit just .224. In 770 plate appearances the last three years with the Indians, Duncan has a solid .231/.309/.430 line (106 OPS+) and has been almost completely split-neutral, managing a .747 OPS versus right-handed pitching and a .720 mark against lefties. Duncan is about an average hitter overall, not hitting for much average and showing pretty poor plate discipline, but he has always stood out for his good power, averaging right around 21 homers per 500 plate appearances in both the major leagues and minor leagues. Duncan is certainly not the hitter Scott is, but his ability to replace at least some of his power, play both corner outfield spots and first base, and also potential slot in against both righties and lefties had to be attractive to the Rays. Duncan is receiving a golden opportunity to prove to the Rays that he belongs in the major leagues and we know given the Rays&#8217; offensive woes of the past several years that if Duncan hits, the Rays will find a way to keep getting him at-bats.</p>
<p>Wright, we know, made the Rays thanks to his great low-90&#8242;s sinker that has forced a groundball rate among the best in baseball the past few years and also an assortment of effective secondary pitches, but what&#8217;s the story with Oviedo? As it turns out, Oviedo, formerly known as Leo Nunez, was placed on the 40-man roster by the Rays and then immediately placed on the 60-day DL as he continues his recovery from Tommy JohnSurgery last September. Nunez was an effective closer for the Marlins for a while, and the Rays took a no-risk flier on him this offseason on a minor league contract hoping he could be a valuable part of their bullpen at the end of this year and also next season, when they hold an option on him. Being on the 60-day DL means that Oviedo doesn&#8217;t count towards the 40-man roster, which allowed the Rays to add him along with Duncan and Wright but only designate two players for assignment.</p>
<p>You have to feel sorry for Stephen Vogt, who went just 0 for 25 for the Rays last season and had fallen out of favor enough with the team that they were willing to designate him for assignment and expose him to waivers. Vogt has good minor league numbers, managing a .299/.360/.448 line, but he&#8217;s a catcher who has never been very good defensively and lacks the power to profile long-term in first base or left field, although he can play both positions decently enough. Vogt interested the Rays enough as a power bat off the bench that they put him on their Opening Day roster to begin 2012, but after he sputtered so spectacularly, they had to risk losing him to put a player in Duncan who can contribute to their major league team on the roster. Vogt has some value, but there&#8217;s also a very good chance he&#8217;ll pass through waivers and remain in the organization at Triple-A Durham.</p>
<p>The tougher move for the Rays had to be designating fellow catcher Robinson Chirinos, who was not a real factor in their backup catcher competition this spring coming off a season derailed by a concussion in 2012, but he also represented the Rays catcher anywhere near the major leagues with the most upside. Chirinos, acquired by the Rays in the <strong><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/garzama01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-rayscoloredglasses.com" target="_blank">Matt Garza</a></strong> deal, had a huge 2010 between Double-A and Triple-A for the Cubs, managing a .326/.416/.583 line with 18 home runs, also throwing out 32% of attempted basestealers, and although he dropped off in his first season in the Rays organization in 2011, he played decently in 20 MLB games for the Rays, most notably delivering a game-tying single and a walk-off single in the same game on August 4th. Chirinos is the only Rays catcher who has shown flashes of being above-average both at the plate and defensively. However, he hasn&#8217;t been the same since the concussion and the Rays just ran out of time and ran out of roster spots and he had to be the one to go. Chirinos may be claimed by another team if they believe he&#8217;s healthy, but the Rays hope he&#8217;s another player that will pass through waivers and if he does and stays healthy, he has a chance to emerge as a catching option at some point in the season.</p>
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